OT: How are they doing this?

**LICORNE** · January 23rd, 2012, 12:29 PM

For the purists where should digital start.

For some like Phil Ramone who does the Gramys TV brodcast. It starts at the mic splitter and ends at you TV set. For others it starts after the Neve analogue mixer and ends at your TV set.
It's a mad world out there.Theres nothing like the sound of a NEVE and if you can reproduce it's musicality . I'll go for after the analogue mixer.

**Old Guy** · January 23rd, 2012, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by LICORNE

For the purists where should digital start.

For some like Phil Ramone who does the Gramys TV brodcast. It starts at the mic splitter and ends at you TV set. For others it starts after the Neve analogue mixer and ends at your TV set.
It's a mad world out there.Theres nothing like the sound of a NEVE and if you can reproduce it's musicality . I'll go for after the analogue mixer.

And get a horse too. I remember reading posts just like that about digital cameras 10 years ago.

The best of analog sounds pretty good. But relatively cheap digital is pretty darn good. I have no problem with you buying your vintage Neve. But for what you pay I'll get a whole studio and a heckuva a lot of Altecs.

It's a poor workman who blames his tools. I have seen good engineers make silk purses out of sow's ear equipment.

If the digital gear is better than the operator-99% of engineers on the planet- no amount of analog will make one whit of difference.

**Altec Best** · January 23rd, 2012, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Old Guy

With today's digital gear anybody can afford quality.

But bear in mind quality and skills isn't everything. It's a matter of inspiration, quality, hard work...and a natural or learned sense of what resonates with people. There are millions of very skilled musicians living at near starvation wages, and many more at the top that are much less skilled. Lots of those at the top are only there for a short period.
Staying power takes a combination of factors, lots of others are at a lower level for years, only to catch fire.

I can cite, for instance, Bob Seger. I remember the Bob Seger System from the late 60's. Most of the industry wrote him off.

Suddenly he's a hit machine.

Steve Miller was a "one hit wonder" for years. And it wasn't even that big a hit. Of course being Les Paul's Godson didn't hurt him.

What makes a great recording? If you can bottle it name your price.

Originally Posted by bowtie427ss

Great post!

I'd only add that sometimes, for some artists it is(or was) all about being at the right place in terms of the grand scale of time.

+2, I don't know how some of the musical artists today are even popular. I still think some of the Best Music has already been written I'm just "Old School" I guess...

Like Vintage Altecs ? I like Vintage music as well.They go great together !

**Old Guy** · January 23rd, 2012, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Altec Best

I don't know how some of the musical artists today are even popular.

The thing is, it's not our music. Youngsters of today live different lives. Our parents didn't like rock. Their parents didn't like Jazz...there were probably people who thought ragtime was "the devil's music".

life goes on and things change.

BTW I take exception to bad artists being popular only lately.

Anybody remember The Archies? How about Ohio Express? Not a lot of today's music is worse than "Yummy Yummy Yummy".

**Nipper** · January 23rd, 2012, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Old Guy

Anybody remember The Archies? How about Ohio Express? Not a lot of today's music is worse than "Yummy Yummy Yummy".

OMG OG..... Thats a recollection I could have lived without.

**just me now** · January 23rd, 2012, 04:51 PM

what gets me, is the super high - clean spls these modern systems are able to produce -- almost pure distortion -- at!

who here digs Skrillex?

**bowtie427ss** · January 23rd, 2012, 05:13 PM

life goes on and things change.

So true! Apparently we no longer know what good music is.

I'd use this video for example. Consider that it has nearly 2 million views, and only 1200 dislikes.

Worst music video ever - YouTube

I sincerely apologize in advance for however many seconds of your life you waste watching it.